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Lymphatic
Phlegm:
Rodrigo: guitar, bass & drum programming
- André: Vocals
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First
off, the full-length is out. I think it's really great.
Can you say something about it? Was it alot of work to put
all these tracks together? Are you satisfied with it? Will
you work again with Black Hole in the future?
Before
all, thanks a fuckin´lot for all your nice comments
about it Pierre, we´re really very glad to know you´ve
enjoyed our 1st full-lenght Cd "PATHOGENESIS INFEST
PHLEGMSEPSIA". Ohh yeah, we´ve worked hard to
put this Cd out for a long time, almost two years (de)composing
and rehearsing a lot. The most songs were already (de)composed
much time ago, some of them since 1997, as we´ve (de)composed
and enjoyed some songs those times, we decided to keep these
songs hidden until the recording session of our 1st full-lenght
Cd. The tracks # 03,10 and 15 are good examples of this,
the full-lenght Cd was almost complete, we´ve just
made four or five songs to finish it, two or three months
before the recording session. When it´s was already
recorded, we knew it would be mastered on a good studio
from Sweden, but not on "Soundlab" preciously.
But at this mean time, Fernando said us that it would delay
a lot and he couldn´t wait ´coz he really wanted
to put the Cd out as soon as possible. So, he´s got
in touch with Miesko and he said us he would master it for
us. This new was fuckin´ great ´coz we really
enjoy Miesko´s work and we´re sure he would
do a great work on our full-lenght Cd. The result was really
AMAZING, we´ve enjoyed it a lot and it was exactly
what we wanted for our full-lenght Cd, the result really
coudn´t be better !!! Well, we´ve received ten
worldwide labels proposals for releasing it: five labels
from Brazil, two U.S labels and three labels from Europe,
but what Fernando & Black Hole Productions have offered
for us was really AWESOME !!! When we knew what he would
like to do with our 1st full-lenght Cd we immediately accepted
his offer, honestly I think nobody could do and offer what
Fernando has made and offered for Lymphatic Phlegm in all
aspects !!! We take care a lot with all our releases but
"PATHOGENESIS INFEST PHLEGMSEPSIA", is really
special and we would like it was also special for who would
release it, and not just one more Cd between so many others,
and only Fernando thought on this way like us and it was
one of the main reasons to release our 1st full-lenght Cd
with him. Fernando has made, is doing and will always do
an awesome effort to spread and keep even stronger Lymphatic
Phlegm´s name worldwide ever !!! We´re totally
satisfied with his work, dedication and total support and
we´re sure that our 2nd full-lenght Cd will also be
out via "Black Hole Productions" and other possible
releases too !!! We hope you all are trying to get a copy
of "PATHOGENESIS INFEST PHLEGMSEPSIA" and we´re
very grateful to you all who have already got it. We hope
to be satisfiyng all your pathologically explicit needs
and that our full-lenght Cd be one of the highlights on
your collection !!!
I
think you've also got a few more upcoming releases. Can
you talk about these? Is the sound gonna be the same as
the full-length?
Honestly,
I don´t think so. Our up-coming releases won´t
sound as our full-lenght Cd, but I´m sure it´ll
continue sounding great (I hope !!!). We´ll probably
work with Miesko again just on our 2nd full-lenght Cd, but
there´s not any date to be released yet, end of 2004,
maybe !!! Ohh yeah, we´re working on some new releases
to be out in the next months. As some of them aren´t
totally confirmed yet, we prefer don´t comment about
them ´til they are totally okay !!! But we can confirm
that our Mcd from 1999 on "Putrid Nausea Productions
/ Germany - R.I.P", "Bloodsplattered Pathological
Dysfunctions" will be re-issued soon on a very limited
edition 10"Lp on "Last House On The Right Records
/ U.S.A" and a new split Cd with (To be confirmed yet
!!!) via "Sonic Death Records (Ex - Lofty Storm Records)
/ Brazil" will be released too. As soon as it´s
ready be sure you all will know about, I´ll keep you
all posted right ???
You're
a very constant band, stylistically. Your grind style is
always basic and pure. Can you please describe & detail
your composing/writing process? Do you have rules or is
there a grind pattern you follow?
Ohh,
thanks a lot for your considerations !!! Well, it´s
so simple, easy, practice and fuckin´great for us,
there´s not really any secret. Each one presents one´s
ideas and we start to (de)compose the songs on the best
way we think. Each one does one´s part and the things
are going very well. We do the guitar´s riffs together,
so we choice the better ones, when it´s okay Rodrigo
start to program the drums and when it´s ready I enclose
the vocals, so the song is totally finished. We rehearse
them a lot and it´s finally ready to be recorded,
we have never had any kind of trouble, maybe for this reasons,
our great friendship and very good relationship, Lymphatic
Phlegm has recently completed seven years and be sure it
will continue on this way for many, many years yet !!! No,
we really don´t follow any rule or a pattern to (de)compose
our songs, they just came naturally, maybe good influences
are also responsible for it, fortunately it´s one
of our good virtues and we hope don´t feel the lack
of this !!!
Do
you practise or does your stuff only come together during
the recording? How and where do you record? Do you go to
a studio?
Yeahh,
all songs are done and rehearsed a lot before we go to the
studio to record them. We record the stuffs on a good studio
from our area called "Coda Studio", the recording
sessions are like anyone, of any other band, just faster
and more practice, specially due to the drum machine. If
the running time of the stuff will be twenty two minutes,
the recording time of the drum machine will also be twenty
two minutes, fortunately we don´t spend much time
with the drum´s recording. After this we start to
record the bass and the guitar, and the last one are the
vocals. I think probably all bands record on this way, there´s
not any particularity, Lymphatic Phlegm´s recording
session are really normal, different that some people think.
Honestly, I don´t know what could have of so special
or different during our recording sessions which causes
so curiosity on the people.
The
guitar riffs seems to be in the same spirit as Exulceration
or very early Agathocles, am I wrong or is it intentional?
Firstly,
I really would like to say, you were the first person who
said Lymphatic Phlegm reminds "Exulceration" or
early "Agathocles". We´re proud of this
´coz these bands are really awesome and have a great
impact on our musick, we really enjoy these bands and we´re
very grateful for all influence they give us since the very
beginning. I´m sure you must have listened to our
cover version of "Exulceration´s - Happy Sickness
Of Life" on our split Cd with "S.M.E.S",
right ??? We´re accustomed to read about the most
variated comparations of Lymphatic Phlegm, some people say
we remind early "Regurgitate", "Gore Beyond
Necropsy", "Dead Infection", "Pathologist",
"Catasexual Urge Motivation", "Impetigo"...
You think we remind "Exulceration" and early "Agathocles",
well, if we remind just a few of each one of these godly
bands, it´s really awesome for us, all these bands
are really fuckin´ great, classic and cult !!! The
most funny comparation came from a guy from Thailand of
a web zine called "Bloody Orgasm" who said Lymphatic
Phlegm reminds him "Impaled Nazarene" and "Beherit",
can you imagine it ??? Well, it´s his opinion and
we must respect it, we can´t judge what anyone thinks,
just accept and respect, right ??? I´m sure we´ll
receive many comparations with variated names and be sure
we´re really very grateful for yours !!! Honestly
no Pierre, if our guitar riffs sound like these bands you´ve
mentioned, it´s a great coincidence, we don´t
do anything intentionally, we prefer to follow our own way
of (de)composition ´coz if it´s not this way
we could be called of a shitty boring cliche, and we want
it never happens, fortunately it has never occured. Of course
you didn´t say, it but it really wasn´t intentionally
made !!!
After
all these years, you still use a drum-machine, my guess
is that it's the fastest and more practical way to record.
Have you completely given up the idea of having real drumming?
With real drums, I think you'd sound like Exuleration re-incarnated!
Objectively, do you think you'll ever have real drumming
or do you think you'll always use the machine drumming?
Well,
on our very beginning we would like to enclose another member
on Lymphatic Phlegm, a drummer, preciously. But as we´ve
never got to find one, it wasn´t possible. So, as
we want to do what we had proposed without depending of
this, we start to play as a duo and with drum machine, it
was really a consequence. Nowadays we haven´t plans
to enclose another member on Lymphatic Phlegm, we´re
totally satisfied how the things are going and we don´t
want to change it!!! Maybe due to this fact we´ve
never played a gig but it has never been and probably will
never be one of our main intentions, since the beginning
we´ve never care about it. We just want to do what
we´re doing nowadays, we prefer to continue on this
way just recording and releasing stuffs, as I said before
we´re very glad how the things are going !!!
Is
there a Lymphatic Phlegm release that you feel is the most
representative of the band, or, the most important?
All
our releases are very important and representative. They
have a great worth for us, there´s not a "most
important stuff", all of them are really fuckin´
expressive for us !!! I could mention stuffs as our Mcd
"Bloodsplattered Pathological Dysfunctions" and
our split 7"Ep with our french gore mates "Sublime
Cadaveric Decomposition" are very important and representative
stuffs ´coz they represent the beggining of a very
special moment of Lymphatic Phlegm, with these stuffs we
started to get more and more proposals from worldwide labels
to release our stuffs and the recognition became much more
expressive. I´m mentioning these stuffs in special
´coz ´til nowadays they are required for many
people, maybe we´ll re-issue our split 7"Ep with
"Sublime Cadaveric Decomposition" in the future,as
we´ve done with our Mcd, it will be a good opportunity
for those who didn´t get it in the past !!! Our 1st
full-lenght Cd "PATHOGENESIS INFEST PHLEGMSEPSIA"
can also be enclosed on this list of special releases ´coz,
as I said before, this stuff is for sure our main effort
ever !!! Our full-lenght Cd represents a great conquest,
we´ve hardly worked to accomplish it and fortunately
we´re satisfying to all those who were waiting for
it for a long time. The response is being totally fuckin´
great and our full-lenght Cd without doubt has a special
worth for all that´s happening and will hapeen yet.
You've
done split releases with tons of bands like Sublime Cadaveric
Decomposition, Jan Ag, S.M.E.S., Neuro-Visceral Exhumation,
Autophagia, etc... What do you think of all the bands that
shared releases with you? Are you in contact with all of
them? Which band(s) would you absolutely LOVE to split with?
Ohh
yeah, we´re in frequent contact with all bands we´ve
splited with, except with "Torsofuck´s"
and "Headcrash´s" guys. It´s a shame
´coz we really would like to keep in touch with them,
when the splits are supposed to be released, the contacts
for it were done through the labels, so we didn´t
get in touch with anyone of them. But I hope it can happen
in a near future, we like a lot the musick of both bands
and it would be great to stay in touch with them !!! With
our country mates of "Flesh Grinder", "Neuro-Visceral
Exhumation" and "Feculent Goretomb" we costume
keep in touch via letters, E-mails and phone, and with all
the other bands we´re in touch via letters and E-mails!!!
Angelos, Magnus, Erwin, Seb, Charlie, Ern, Jan are old friends
and we´re always keeping in touch. We hope to meet
them all some day, it would be AWESOME !!! Ahh, and of course
you too, Pierre !!! We really love all these sickos are
doing, they are really playing the sickest musick and each
one on its own way, but always sounding sick as fuck !!!
We´re very proud to release some stuffs with all these
great guys and their amazing bands, we´re proud !!!
We really like tons of bands and it would be great if we
could release some split with anyone of them. It would be
great if we could release some split with our country mates
who are unfortunately R.I.P nowadays as "Rotting Flesh"
and "Sarcastic", other brazilian names also could
be "Rot", "Life Is A Lie", "Tapasya",
"Neoplasm Disseminator"... It would also be awesome
to split with some bands which are great Lymphatic Phlegm´s
influences such as "Last Days Of Humanity", "Catasexual
Urge Motivation / Vampiric Motives", "Libido Airbag",
"Pathologist", "Gore Beyond Necropsy",
"Dead Infection","Regurgitate", "Mortician",
"Haemorrhage"... We like a lot some one man bands
that we could split with such as "Decomposing Serenity",
"Microphallus", "Intense Soaked Cloth",
"Dysmenorrheic Hemorrhage", "Gross",
"Gynophagia", "Psychosadist Haterapist",
"Savage Man Savage Beast"... All these bands are
really very appreciated for us and it would be fuckin´
great to split something with anyone of them, someday. There
are so many names to mention, they would compose a huge
list !!! Our free time is so short nowadays that we aren´t
doing any plans for any future split release, we just want
to accomplish what was planned in the past, if it happen
will be really very good !!!
I
think the CD format is the best way to listen Lymphatic
Phlegm; Even though I love vinyl, it seems to me that your
special sound is slightly degraded on vinyl; What do you
think about that, am I wrong?
Ohh,
we like vinyl a lot too !!! As we know vinyl has a special
and own characteristic and it also becomes special for who
listens to it !!! When there is the possibilty to get a
stuff that was released on both ways, Cd and Lp we can percept
some real differences between each one and maybe it is a
reason for many people enjoy more vinyl stuffs than Cd´s.
We costume give to the stuff that will be released on vinyl
the same treatment that we give to the stuffs that will
be released on Cd, there´s no reason to be different
and when they´re ready, each one has its own characteristics.
Honestly, I confess that I don´t think our stuffs
on vinyl format are slightly degraded, I think they continue
sounding cool, sometimes raw, filthy and noisy as fuck,
but still cool !!! But if it´s your opinion, I must
say it´s totally okay for us, we absolutely understand
it. If we´re doing something, we´re also able
for any kind of commentary !!! It´s really very interesting
´coz there are some people who prefer our stuffs on
vinyl, and others on Cd, but independent of the stuff´s
format, we hope everybody (including you) keeps enjoying
our releases. Fortunately our full-lenght Cd will be released
on Lp too, so people can get the stuff on the format they
prefer !!! Thanks a lot for your honest opinion, Pierre
!!!
Your
lyrics seem to be straight out of a medical book. Do you
understand all of your lyrics yourself? Do you think the
concept has limits or is there still more to explore?
Well,
our lyrics, artworks and specially our musick are really
very inportant for us ´coz all them are our main characteristics
and we´re always trying to do it in the best way we
can do, and as it really must be !!! Our lyrics are a very
special Lymphatic Phlegm´s characteristic and I´m
always hardly working to do them in the best way and, as
I said before, as it really must be. The main intention
of our lyrics is to show all that can happen with anyone
of us at any moment in the most true, severe and pathologically
explicit concept. Expose how the extremely fragile, sordid
and decadent structure of the human organism is pathologically
disposed and how all our anatomical complex is complete,
interesting and fascinating. The most repulsive, bizarre
and destructive kinds of human pathology are what we want
to express, none of the alive beings can develop so many
kinds of pathology like the human being. Try to know more
and more about it, how it´s important for anyone of
us, what it can provide for us ... All this is really fascinating
and just who´s really into this knows what I want
to say and I hope you are one of them too, right ??? Still
as an interesting topic, we pick all our stuffs (artworks
& lyrics) from all our medical literature, such as books,
magazines, journals. Sometimes I visit some medical web
sites too... It´s really essencial and I´m always
trying to get more and more itens about it for keeping the
stuffs very well done and correct. Unfortunately some people
think what we´re expressing thru our pathological
subjects has nothing to say and is incoerent, other think
they are just re-prints of the medical texts or something
else, but I´m sure they are totally wrong. Maybe,
if some of them, their parents or friends aquire a malignant
and destructive kind of pathology, all of them will have
a very good experience to know if what we´re saying
is true or not, DECAY IN PATHOLOGY FUCKIN´ WIMPS !!!
Well, still about the lyrics, they are a complement for
our musick, through the lyrics we can expose all which our
thematic is about, they are really essencial. Only on some
songs we don´t enclose lyrics due to the short running
time or just because the title already says what we want,
but they´re very few !!! Well, I write all lyrics
about a complex text, I get a full text so I extract the
main parts of this, making a compendium, an abstract text
with all itens that the lyrics need. Sometimes, I enclose
some personal positions on it too, but just sometimes, just
when it´ll sound great !!! The lyrics contents are
about to expose the main points of the full text such as:
how the pathologies begin, their motives, where they come
from, development, symptons, what they can cause to the
patient, prophilaxy methods... it would be really easy just
re-print the texts, but we really don´t do it !!!
I think this subject will always have topics to explore,
if you go deep into the pathology depths you´ll see
it hasn´t limits and while there are disposed human
beings disposed to manifest these pathologies, their dissemination
will always be uncontrollable and endless!!! As I said before,
try to know about them, and about all the amazing medical
sciences can offer to you, it´s really fantastic !!!
You
often use intros from horror flicks like Zombie Holocaust
(Dr. Butcher), Flesh for Frankenstein & more... Are
you horror fans? Are you able to pick ONE absolute fave
movie? You seem to keep the medical concept of the band
in your intros too; do you have a hard time tracking down
movies fitting to the this concept?
Well,
we love "Trash" movies in general on all its segments
and all which is relationed with this, all them are really
fuckin´great !!! It´s really special, difficult
to explain, just who´s into this knows exactly what
it means and I´m sure you like it a lot too, right
??? So, you understand what I want to say !!! This Kind
of culture is really special for us and we give it all recognition
it really deserves, "Hail the B cinema ever"!!!
I like several titles into this, really so many to mention.
But I´ll mention some of my all times faves. They
are: "Aftermath" Nacho Cerdá, "The
Gates Of Hell" Lucio Fulci, "The Beyond"
Lucio Fulci, "Schramm" Jörg Buttgereit, "Nekromantik
1 & 2" Jörg Buttgereit,"Bad Taste"
Peter Jackson and "O Monstro Legume do Espaço"
Petter Baiestorf, these flix and their directors are really
fantastic, I love them all !!! Ohh yeah, I´m always
trying to find some flix that are into our medical thematic,
but it´s really very hard. One of them that was perfect
is the classic "Doctor Butcher M.D - Medical Deviate",
when I´ve watched to this I said: "I´ll
enclose some parts of this on our full -lenght Cd"
and the result coudn´t be better, it came perfect
to our musick !!! We would like to enclose the trailer of
this on our full-lenght Cd too, but "Catasexual Urge
Motivation" has already used it on their godly cult
"Rape Trauma Syndrome" cassete. I´m always
searching for some medical documentaries on video too, when
I found some which is perfect I´ll enclose some parts
of this on our intros for sure !!! I costume to spend much
time searching and watching videos to find some cool intros
to be enclosed on our upcoming stuffs. Nowadays I prefer
to enclose intros taken from just two or three flix. Never
more than it. On some cases just from one, it´s more
practice and simple and the stuff´s intros have a
good sequence, it´s better !!!
You're
one of the most productive and creative band in the scene.
So many releases and so many tracks... Are you still as enthusiastic
about what you do as you were in the start? Do you feel
you're gonna put out many more releases in the future?
Ohh,
thanks a lot for your nice considerations Pierre, we´re
really very grateful !!! Yeahh, fortunately after all this
seven years of existence we continue so enthusiastic as
the beginning, we keep with this great feeling and it give
us more will to continue spreading our sickness !!! Honestly
I think it´ll continue on this way for much time yet,
we really love what we´re doing and when this feeling
goes different there´s not any reasons to continue,
but be sure Lymphatic Phlegm will keep alive and even stronger
for many years!!! I´m sure we´ll put out some
more releases yet but not so many itens as it was in the
last times, there are some stuffs that we really want to
release, some splits with friendly and great bands and a
second and until a third full-lenght Cd, but it´ll
happen with much work and dedication and we´re hardly
working for it happen !!! We hope to release some new stuff
very soon, we´ll keep you all informed, right ???
Do
you have any hobbies, projects & stuff outside Lymphatic
Phlegm? Do you have a desire to do other projects in music
styles different than L.P.?
Honestly,
we haven´t much time to do some hobbie or some similar
activitie. Our free time we costume to spend with our rehearsals
and with the band´s works such as answer letters,
E-mails, inties, etc... When we have some extra free time
we really enjoy to go to "Atlético´s Arena"
to watch some game of our fave football team, it´s
really awesome, hail "Clube Atlético Paranaense"
ever !!!". When it´s possible, we also go to
the "Black Hole Productions" head quarter (Hey
Fernando !!!) and we also stay with our girlfriends, watch
some videos, sometimes we go to the beach or do some camping
activities, sometimes I travel for other near cities where
I meet other cool friends, take cold beers a lot... Well,
just normal things for common people, there´s nothing
special!!! No way, it would be impossible to start a project
or something else outside Lymphatic Phlegm, we spend all
our free time with our activities but if it was possible
I think we would like to play something into Hard Core,
Crust Core, Grind Core or Power Violence but it isn´t
really possible but would be cool !!!
Now
can you talk about Brasil? I know you've got quite alot
of really intense bands over there... Please talk about
your fave brasilian bands; but also what's it like to live
in a place like Brasil?!
Well,
Grind Gore isn´t really popular in Brazil but we still
have a large number of followers here, specially in the
region where we live (South). The "Splatter / Gore"
scene in Brazil fortunately continues very strong and active
and it´s even stronger day after day !!! Unfortunately
we had some sad losses in the last years, some fuckin´
great bands such as: "Hansened", "Carnal
Thumor", "Sarcastic", "Vômito"...
broke up, but other great names have rised and they are
nowadays disseminating the Grind Gore sickness from Brazil,
they are: "Neuro-Visceral Exhumation", "Feculent
Goretomb", "Neoplasm Disseminator", "Cativeiro/(R.I.P)",
"Lethal Sense", "Compulsive Vulvolatric Intruders",
"Genital Lacerate", "Schatologic Madness
Possession", "Disgusting", "Rotten Penetration",
"Infected Virulency", "Defecation In The
Sexual Orgy", "Debauchery"... Most of you
probably know them, right ??? If no try to know them all,
I´m sure you´ll not be disappointed. Well, I
think this rotativity is very common, some bands go and
other bands come but the most important is to keep the scene
strong, active and united and we´re very glad to colaborate
with this and be sure it´ll go on this way for many,
many years yet, "Hail brazilian Grind Gore" !!!
How´s to live in Brazil??? Well, Brazil is a country
of many contrasts and there are many differences between
each region .The brazilian socio-political and economical
situation fortunately is stabilized. Of course, it could
be better but what was done and what´s being done
is already sufficient to assuage the main troubles of the
country. As you know, Brazil is a continental country and
as I said before like any 3rd world country there are here
many differences between the regions, everyone with its
own troubles, particularities and characteristcs, so it
makes the work harder to solucionate them all !!! I don´t
support the new president and his philosophy but as always
he promises work a lot to finish with all social differences
from Brazil, we´re just waiting and when possible
colaborating for it too. Fortunately we live in the best
and richest region of the country (South) where the life
quality has always been superior than the other ones. Paraná
is one of the three richest states in Brazil and Curitiba
is the best city in life quality to live, so we haven´t
so many things to complain. Of course there are here many
umployed people and poor ones living with much few money
but they don´t represent a big problem to be solutioned.
Honestly I don´t know if we have the same good conditions
if we live on other regions of Brazil, I can´t say
´coz I don´t know these places, I´m talking
just what I read on the newspapper and what I see on Tv
but the conditions of the other regions aren´t so
bad as they were in the past, the people are always trying
and hardly working to change this situation and for making
a good place to live with all necessary things and it´s
great !!! We´re very glad on the place where we live
and totally satisfied how the things are going and I´m
sure it tends to become better!!! If possible, come to Brazil
to know Curitiba, Paraná and the South region, you
are our guest right ??? But forget all those boring and
shitty history of Carnival (Fuckin´ SHIT!!!), Rio
de Janeiro, São Paulo and Amazon jungle, we´re
really so far of this all !!!
That's
all I had to ask. Thanks for answering all of this. Any
closing words?
Thanks
a fuckin´ lot Pierre for this nice intie,we´re
really very grateful for all your support and friendship,
you rule pathogorebro !!! We really always want to appear
on your web zine, we really appreciate your work and we´re
really very glad for it, thanksss !!! Anyone who wants to
know more about Lymphatic Phlegm please get in touch, your
letters and E-mails will be more than welcome, thanksss
in advance !!! You all, try to check our new releases specially
our 1st full-lenght Cd and STAY TOTALLY GORE AND PATHOLOGICALLY
EXPLICIT AS FUCK !!!
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-"Pseudopathobliterations in Septicemic Infestation"
4-way Split CD with Autophagia, Feculent Goretomb
and Ulcerrhoea 2002 on Deranged for Leftovers Productions
(Brazil) and Rotten Foetus Productions (Brazil) 
