
This
time, you guys are back for real! What happened when you
guys tried to get back together a few years ago? Why didn't
that work out? I remember you had the drummer from Nasum(?)
playing drums for you, was that true? When did you guys
decide to keep trying? There was one point when I really
thought you guys had given up.
JC:
Well, basically everything fell through when we couldn't
find a steady line-up. Finding a drummer that is both good
and available is almost impossible. We tried out several
people but there was always a problem with how much time
they could commit to the band, or in other cases their style
didn't fit our music too well. We got in touch with Anders
from Nasum when we reformed, and he agreed to play with
us but in the end it turned out that he couldn't make it
due to time constraints. Also, he wanted to remain a fan
of the band rather than get too involved in it. We respect
his decision, and there was no hard feelings about it. We
borrowed a drummer from a friends band (Construcdead) and
did the Carcass cover song, and after that we tried to find
somebody who could play but it was really slow going.. eventually
we just accepted the fact that nobody was interested, so
we kind of put the band on ice for a while. So yes, at one
point we didn't really have anything going for us. No members,
no website, nothing at all. The turning point was in 2002
when I talked to an old friend (Andy of Sayyadina) about
recording some songs on his computer, just to see how they
would sound. His band had just done a German tour where
Adde from Birdflesh filled in on drums, so it was a natural
choice to ask him if he would be interested in drumming
on some future GS material.. the rest is history, as they
say.
G: Jocke
neglected to mention the bribes I received for gracing the
band with my presence the second time around. Otherwise
I think he covered everything rather eloquently in his long-winded
answer.
From
listening to the new mp3's, I can totally see that this
time, you guys really ARE back! In fact, I think the newer
songs are even better than the old stuff you guys did. Seems
like taking 10 years off didn't hurt you guys one bit! Most
of these reunions always fail (that new Grave album is terrible!),
but this time, it has worked! Tell us about how it feels
to really be back in action this time around.
JC:
I'm glad you like them. It's actually a pretty common reaction
we get to the new stuff, "Wow, these are actually good
songs, not just another reformed band"... I can't blame
people for being a little dubious. After all, we've been
"reformed" for almost 4 years now and have very
little to show for it. So we knew that we had a pretty high
standard to live up to once we released some material, what
with our "cult status" and all that. There's a
pretty strict formula that you have to work with in this
particular genre, but I think we managed to crank out some
good tunes and still retain our old sound and just updating
it slightly.
I had maybe 1/3 of the riffs written when we started writing
again last year, so most of the split CD is fresh stuff
that we worked very hard on to make it as good as we possibly
could. It feels great to be back, especially now when were
getting really good feedback from all around the world.
I could not ask for more.
G: In
my opinion it's due to the fact that the rest of the band
have a certain something.... Talent or whatnot. Jocke's
songs have been awesome and Andreas' and Adde's input has
definately made the songs end up the way they have. Due
to the outlook we've had on the band this time around, i.e.
not taking things overly seriously and making sure we enjoy
playing in the band, and the fact that we've taken our time,
we're all very satisfied with the way the new material's
ended up. And as for our perceived "cult" reputation...
Wellllll, Matti's not in the band anymore, so we can't use
Dismember as a selling point anymore. Damn. What a pity.
Anyway, there'll always be nay-sayers and nothing we ever
record will change their minds about Necrology being the
best material we've ever or will ever release.
You guys are now working with Adde from BIRDFLESH on drums.
How did that work out, and will Adde be the permanent drummer
for GENERAL SURGERY? I think he's really added a new feeling
to the band, making you guys faster and tighter than ever
before.
JC:
Adde is pretty vital to our new sound, being the talented
drummer that he is... also he's a CrazyNiceGuy and has that
luscious ass. He can easily match anything I can come up
with, so there's no worries there at all regarding the future
song writing. Even though we write the songs with programmed
drums and he gets to hear them when they're sort of finished
(because he lives a few hours away from the rest of us),
he manages to inject a lot of his own style into it once
he plays the songs with us. He's been playing this kind
of stuff for a long time and it shows, he's got a great
vibe to his drumming and doesn't overplay.. I can't stand
when drummers are doing that. I see no reason why
our line-up should change now, these are the best guys that
could ever be in this band.
G: "With
the exception of our singer"
A: Adde
is a really good drummer!

The new songs are still totally GENERAL SURGERY style, I'm
so happy you guys didn't decide to change anything, and
yet, you've managed to even improve on your sound! What
really inspired you guys to make such a solid comeback?
JC:
Old Carcass records. Booze. Lack of sleep. Piracy.
G: Threats
of excessive physical violence, the aforementioned bribes,
THE CHANCE TO RELEASE SOMETHING ON RAZORBACK RECORDS YAY!
More to the point, I figured I'd jump on the bandwagon with
a bunch of more talented people than myself.
A: The
money...
Tell
us about some of the new songs you guys have recorded for
the split CD with THE COUNTY MEDICAL EXAMINERS. How long
did it take to write them, and record them? Was it hard
to record after years of being gone from the underground?
Tell us about some of the lyrical content, and also the
recording process. Seems like it went very easy for you
guys, even though you haven't recorded in over 10 years!
JC:
Some of the songs were already written, such as "Lab
Rat". Also parts of "Decomposer" and "Pre-Bisectal
Corrosive Immersion" were stuff that I wrote during
1999/2000. So we started with the little stuff I had, and
once we got started demoing songs at Andy's place things
kind of snowballed from there. I think we came up with 6
complete songs in 6-7 weeks.. which is pretty good considering
that we only have time to get together once a week, if that.
So, all the 7 songs were ready just before Xmas 2002. After
they were recorded with programmed drums, we sent them to
Adde so he could learn them, and in January we practised
for one weekend for the first time. One month after that
we started recording properly. The drums were first recorded
on a computer in our practise room, but the files got corrupt
so we couldn't use them. Luckily enough Adde knew of a cheap
digital studio just outside Stockholm, so we managed to
get a few hours there and redo all the drums. It took maybe
3-4 hours to do that. Then we had the drum files, fed them
into Andy's computer and started recording on weekends,
so it took a while to complete it because of our ever conflicting
schedules. Recording was easy but the mixing process was
a nightmare that I just want to forget about. It took us
a long time to find the right sound and it was really hard
work, but I guess it paid off in the end. The record doesn't
sound flawless, but that wasn't our intention.... we
wanted a gritty, dirty sound but with a lot of punch. I
think we achieved just that.
G: The
lyrics are basically a continuation of the later lyrics
on Necrology ("Crimson Concerto" & another
song I can't remember the title of). No big deal for me.
The music is what makes our new stuff what it is and the
lyrics basically just back it up. What I've noticed now
is how much easier it is writing lyrics what with online
dictionaries and thesauruses. The subject matter could be
considered more bizarre & humourous than before. I never
really gave a flying fuck about excessive medical terminology.
Put it this way; I don't have the knowledge to write anything
legible in medical terms. I'll leave that to the professionals,
i.e. Dr. Fairbanks. If I had his background and talent then
it'd be an entirely different story altogether.
A: I
guess none of the participants in this band has been "gone"
from the underground for ten years, just doing other stuff.
Jocke wrote all the music, and did he come up with some
soon-to-be-classic stuff!!! The recording sessions was all
fun, the mixing and mastering, on the other hand, was a
nightmare... I think it, in the end, turned out really good
though.
Discography:
-"Erosive Offals" Demo 1 (1990)
-"Pestiferous
Anthropophagia " Demo 2 (1990)
-"Internecine
Pruriance" Demo 3 (1990)

-"Necrology"
Ep (1991)

-"Necrology"
Mcd (1991)

Appearance
on "Requiem of Revulsion" Carcass Tribute
Cd
Upcoming:
-Split Cd w/ The County Medical Examiners
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Let's
go back in time a bit. After the release of the "Necrology"
7"(which later became a CD and even a cassette!), what
happened to you guys? It almost seems like the band was
just a myth at one point! You guys never recorded anything
after "Necrology"? Did GENERAL SURGERY ever sign
a contract with any label back in those days? I remember
when Relapse had announced a full CD titled "Sex God
Pathology", was that just a joke?
JC:
We split up right after we had recorded Necrology.. maybe
we even knew that the band was finished during the recording,
I cannot remember. Matti was quitting because he needed
the time to focus on Dismember, which was completely understandable.
So we just continued on playing with our other bands and
was quite taken aback with all the positive stuff we heard
about Necrology. I was very surprised when I heard that
Relapse wanted to release the complete session on CD two
years later. I have no recollection of signing anything
back then, but of course I could be wrong.
G: Sex-God-Pathology
stems from a phone conversation I had with Matt J. when
I said something in passing about how it'd be fun to record
a full-length and call it something like Sex-God-Pathology.
The title was a sort of hommage to the Swans. I didn't think
much about it until Relapse's next catalogue came out and
listed it as an upcoming release. Whoops. From what I recall,
G.S. semi-existed for a while after Necrology was recorded,
but never got anything done. Anyway, it was the other guys'
fault, not mine. The bastards.
During the quiet years when the band wasn't active, did
you guys know that the name GENERAL SURGERY had become a
cult name with the exposure that the Relapse release brought
you? What were you guys doing during those years, and were
you happy or unhappy with the direction the underground
death metal/grind scene was going in? Did you guys ever
follow any of the black metal stuff that was happening?
JC:
I was busy playing in other bands at the time and really
didn't pay any attention to something that I had been doing
for fun back in 1990. After 1992/1993 I was pretty much
fed up with the whole underground scene anyway, so I was
not very active for a few years. Black Metal was not something
I found especially nteresting, although it had some amusing
qualities to it that are hard to ignore. Musically it wasn't,
and still isn't my style at all.
G: Personally
I spent several years in the mid 90's wearing corpse paint.
Never mind the fact that I only listened to 70's disco and
James Last at the time. I had a slight inkling that G.S.
has acquired a certain reputation, but I never really payed
it much attention. Only as I grew older I felt the need
for attention, recognition, respect.... something to maintain
an identity.... Anyway, I started looking around on the
net in the late 90's and found a bunch of stuff. I guess
that was when the first idea of reforming came about. It
only took about four years to actually produce anything,
so I'd say we're on a winning streak.
In the past few years, more and more grind/gore type of
bands started to form. When did you guys realizer this style
of music was still going strong and even more than ever
before? What did you guys think when you saw the fan made
GENERAL SURGERY web site that Pierre from the BRAINDEAD
webzine was doing? Were you guys surprised to see a web
site for a band that hadn't recorded anything new in over
10 years? Did that help to inspire you guys to get back
together to record new gore music for today's fans?
JC:
That old webpage alone is pretty much responsible for the
resurgence of GS, I'd say. When Grant found that, and told
me it existed it was a very odd feeling, yet I felt very
flattered about it. It was only then I realized that GS
had played quite a significant role in the underground gore/grind
scene the last few years. It was pretty weird to find out
that something we did for fun mattered so much to a lot
of bands out there, and I think that was the spark that
made us realize that we should get back together and do
something again.
G: Looks
as if I've already answered this question already. I'm so
pro-active I could puke. Or make other people puke, so it
seems.
Jocke,
I know you were in AFFLICTED CONVULSION (later just called
AFFLICTED). What happened to that band, and how many albums
did you guys record? Why did you guys break up? Was the
band very successful with your album for Nuclear Blast?
What other bands were you involved with over the years?
JC:
We recorded two albums and I left in the summer of 1994
because I wasn't into the style of music that we played
at the time. Regarding sales I have no idea how much the
records sold. I don't think they sold that much, because
NBR didn't do very much for the band. After Afflicted I
joined a band called Face Down, which I made two records
with. The first one came out on Roadrunner and the 2nd one
on Nuclear Blast (again!). We did some touring in Europe
in 1996-1998 with Napalm Death, Crowbar and At The Gates.
I think that our biggest claim to fame is that our
drummer left the band to join Entombed and that the singer
left to join The Haunted, hahaha. So that came to an end
in 1999, I think.. just before we were going to find a new
label and record our 3rd album.
G: This
explains in part why he's such a cynical swine.
Tell us about the early days of the Swedish death metal/grind
scene. What was it really like? Were most of the bands all
friendly with each other before many of the bands started
to become bigger and more known? Are the bands that are
still active still friendly with each other? Who were some
bands that never really got too well known that you feel
deserved to?
JC:
From the little I can remember, it was friendly from the
start but it slowly went downhill as soon as people started
getting "big" record deals and so forth.. then
it was pretty obvious that it was kind of elitist for a
while and it was not really not that friendly anymore. People
stopped going to shows and stopped hanging out with each
other, which was a shame since it was quite a healthy scene
in the early days. I think that most of the bands that are
still around today that was friends back then are still
friendly now.. I don't see any reason why they shouldn't
be. I think Afflicted should have gotten more recognition,
of course.. tee hee.
G: That's
a pretty good approximation of it. Everyone hung out with
each other and then the inevitable rifts showed up. It wasn't
anybody's fault per se, just one pf these things that happens.
It was good fun while it lasted. Having said that, we still
know most of the people we hung out with back then. The
difference being that the filthy metalheads of yore are
now responsible fathers and family men. With a few exceptions.
At least I'm not filthy anymore. Well, not in the physical
sense. Next question.
Please give me some comments on the following bands: 1.FUNEBRE
2.XYSMA 3.CREMATORY 4.ENTOMBED 5.CARNAGE 6.AUTOPSY 7.PATHOLOGIST
8.MACHETAZO 9.CAR-CRASH 10.GENERAL SURGERY
JC:
1. Great death metal band that Afflicted played a show with
in Turku back in 1990.
2. Good friends back in the day, great and very original
music.
3. Well, one of the bands that should have made it but didn't.
Featured the original GS drummer.
4. I prefer Murder Squad.
5. Great demos, too much old Dismember songs on the album.
6. The most important death metal band for me, along with
Carcass and early Morbid Angel.
7. Never heard them. Weren't they one of the really early
Carcass clone bands?
8. My new favourite band, along with Frightmare!
9. What?
10. Pirates!
G:
1. From Finland. Released a good demo and 7" from what
I recall
2. The same, but after releasing a classic LP they released
a bunch of hippie-dippie rock n'roll records.
3. SHUNKS! Great lyrics.
4. Good band. Great guys. Deserve all the recognition they
get.
5. The Day Man Lost was great. I lost interest when they
turned into Dismember mk2.
6. Their importance cannot and should not be ignored. One
of the best death metal bands ever.
7. Good band from what little I've heard. Been around for
a while, haven't they?
8. One of the best extreme metal bands around today. Anyone
who idolizes Vincent Price is worthy of praise.
9. Sounds like a Carcass spoof band. And here was me thinking
we were the only ones.
10. *insert witty quip here, since I can't be bothered*
A:
1 - ?
2 - Rihimäki rules!
3 - Nja
4 - Peaked a long time ago, seems to have gotten better
lately though...
5 - Nope
6 - Yes!
7 - I prefer the surgeon...
8 - Great band!
9 - Train-crashes are cooler, more gore.
10 - What?
Do you remember any great old fanzines that used to exist
back in the old days that you guys were featured in? Did
you guys used to tape trade back in
those days? How helpful was that back then to spread the
name of a band, especially a death/grind one? Nowadays,
tape trading is pretty much extinct,
same with real fanzines! Very sad...
JC:
Two great norwegian fanzines immediately spring to mind;
Slayer Mag and Morbid Mag! I guess Slayer Mag is still going?!
Great stuff. I used to tape trade and I have a few boxes
of old tapes stashed away. It was crucial to a band back
then to trade tapes and spread your flyers through the mail..
it was like a very slow version of the internet. It worked
because it was all we had back then. While I appreciate
the swiftness of the modern media, i.e. computers and the
internet, I still feel nostalgic about typing up flyers
on a beat up typewriter, doing scissors and glue type layout
for flyers and demo covers.. and then spending a fortune
sending the tapes out via regular mail. Bands of today have
no clue how much work that was.
G: I
think one of the first fanzines I got was Stage Dive, which
was written by Rich Militia from Sore Throat. I still have
it lying around somewhere. It opened an entirely new world
for me. It was more outspoken than any of the regular metal
mags, thoroughly entertaining and featured new bands I'd
never heard of (Bolt Thrower when they were still a demo
band for example). Sadly, I've got very few old fanzines
or demos left from ym tape trading days. I have a tendency
to give away stuff like that to people with a more burning
passion for it than I do. I'm not really one for nostalgic
values when it comes to these things. More likely that I
refuse to be nostalgic now that I've given fucking everything
away. Although I wish I still had my ND/SOB tour shirt left.
How did you meet up with THE COUNTY MEDICAL EXAMINERS for
this split CD? What did you think of their music, and debut
CD? Were you guys upset that a band sounded more like CARCASS
than you guys did, or did it also help to inspire you guys
to give it another shot? Tell us about how the split CD
was planned, and what can people expect from it? How long
have you and Dr.Fairbanks been friends?
JC:
Dr. Fairbanks contacted me a couple of years ago when he
came across our website. Being one of the original clone
bands, he naturally had an interest
in GS, especially since we also used a little of the same
kind of imagery. First he sent me their demo, and later
on the album and needless to say I was totally overwhelmed
with the way they pulled off their Carcass emulation! It
didn't upset me as much as it spurred me on to start writing
some music again. When their record came out, I felt there
was a chance that a possible GS record could be interesting
for today's metal crowd. As for putting the deal together,
we worked separately and just had a deadline set earlier
this spring, when both bands delivered their music and suggestions
for the cover art. It was very smooth. I think people can
expect the best of both worlds on this record: GS are definitely
flying the flag for the RoP sound on our songs, while TCME
are dancing VERY closely with the SoS type of sound on their
songs. I'm really impressed with their skill, to say the
very least. Their new bass player, Dr. Radcliffe, really
added a new
dimension to their sound. I hope they retain him in the
band.
G: I'm
just honoured to know them. Fairbanks is a great guy. I'm
really grateful that he agreed to write some of the lyrics
for the split CD. It really adds to the lyrical content.
I thoroughly enjoyed their first full-length, but their
new material pisses all over it. In all honesty it isn't
better than Carcass as such, but it's pretty close. As for
what people should expect from the split... well, either
45 minutes of high-quality music, i.e. another good RZB
release or alternatively an expensive drinks
coaster.
A: I
love that record man, really do!!! Hearing it is all inspirational.
Do you guys have any other material in the works for other
releases? I know you guys have some 7" ep plans, care
to mention any of them?
JC:
We're slowly writing new songs for two split 7"s that
are supposed to come out later this year. One is with Machetazo
on Dopi's own label Vincent Price Records, and the other
one is with the Australian band Filth and will be out on
Bones Brigade. I hope I'm not saying too much now though!
These are tentative plans, but I sure hope that they will
work out. And as if that weren't enough, we're releasing
the split CD on a picture disc on Hater of God Records and
on regular vinyl in Europe on Yellow Dog Records. Lots of
future merchandise to spend your hard earned cash on.
G: Not
to forget an eventual full-length, tentatively titled Sex-God-Pathology,
out soon on Relapse Records.
What are your feelings on the CARCASS tribute CD that came
out? Honestly, I wasn't really into the song you guys did.
I felt the vocals weren't extreme
sounding enough for this style of music and I didn't really
like the drumming. Were you guys dissapointed with this
track? How did you like the rest of the bands on the CD?
Who do you think was the best, or your most favorite?
JC:
Great idea, but maybe poorly executed in some aspects. Our
contribution was not the best, but it was the best we could
do at the time. We had no drummer and had to borrow a guy
and just throw everything together in a kind of rush. I
don't regret participating on that tribute, it was a really
cool idea and a good opportunity for GS to show that we
were indeed still around. A lot of the other tracks on it
are great, like RGTE, Machetazo and Impaled.
G: Our
track turned out a bit cruddy. A bit too metal, and the
vocals didn't turn out as expected. They'd probably fit
perfectly on a Dismember record, but not for GS. Not extreme
enough. Ah well, no point in crying over spilled milk. Unless
of course it was the only thing you had to drink and you
had no money left. And were stranded on a planet without
water populated by crazed pirate aliens with a thirst for
human flesh... and turtles. But that's beside the point.
Anyway, as tributes go, it was one of the more interesting
ones, with the exception of our contribution.
A: Rotten
Sound ruled that tribute cd!!!
Now that there's absolutely no chance for CARCASS to ever
return (considering Bill Steer doesn't even listen to metal
anymore, from what I heard), who do you think is the best
band today keeping the CARCASS tradition alive(besides you
guys, of course!)? Any other CARCASS style bands you guys
enjoy listening to today?
JC:
The County Medical Examiners, of course. Machetazo has the
same vibe, but they add a lot of one of my other favorite
band in there too, namely Autopsy.
G: Nothing
that I'd personally think of being directly Carcass-related,
except TCME. There's a whole lot of good bands out there,
but I never seem to hear any obvious Carcass influences.
I guess I just think of it as being a natural part of that
genre of music.
A: THE
COUNTY MEDICAL EXAMINERS, of course!
What do you say to people who think ripping off CARCASS
is pointless? Many people today seem a bit tired of this
sound it seems like.(not me!!) What is your opinion on this?
Do you think there can ever be too many of these bands?
JC:
My first instinct is to tell them to fuck off. At least
we're admitting to stealing shit. Every single band steals,
there's no way of getting around that.. most bands just
hide behind some false pretense of being original. I mean,
if you play goregrind, how original can you be until it
becomes something entirely different?
G: Ah...
the neverending discussion of Carcass clones. As I pointed
out earlier, I don't pay much attention to Carcass influences
as such. Pretty much every band nowadays is influenced by
some other older band, so why spend your time nitpicking
about it. It's simple; if you don't like it, don't fucking
listen to it. However, if anyone has a personal beef about
us, then don't hesitate to get in touch with me as I enjoy
arguing pointlessly. Us Scots are like that. It's part of
our heritage.
A: That
they´re wrong, but entitled to an opinion of course.
What
would you like to accomplish with GENERAL SURGERY in your
2nd stage of life for the band. Seems like you are back
to have a lot of fun, which I think is sadly missing in
today's underground. Do you guys plant to eventually do
a full-length album? "Sex God Pathology" perhaps?
Any plans to play live and tour other countries?
JC:
I think you made the point right there; create good music
and have a lot of fun while doing so. It's pretty obvious
we're not the most serious band around, if you read the
stuff we have up on our website and look at the pictures.
We are 100% serious about the music and lyrics, but we do
take the whole goregrind thing with a big pinch of salt.
We're old enough to have some distance to it now, and I
think that keeps our outlook on the whole thing healthy.
Future plans include making a good full-length album eventually,
and also we're about to start booking small local shows
so we can find out whether we're suited to the live environment
or not. If we get the right offer to tour abroad, then we'll
consider it of course.
G: We're
not serious as people, which I think is blatantly obvious.
We come across as misanthropic assholes sometimes... errr...
OK, all the time. We enjoy fucking around, yelling at each
other, throwing large objects in each other's general direction
and firebombing each other's houses, but all in the name
of good clean fun. Which, indeed, is what the band is about;
being insufferable pricks and enjoying ourselves while we're
at it. As my good friend Captain Obvious would say; if you
don't enjoy being in a band & playing music, then don't
bother. We're not a joke band, which I think is obvious
when you listen to the music, but we do have a sense of
humour.
That's another thing sorely lacking in music nowadays. Especially
in metal. Lighten the fuck up and leave the constantly frowning
kindergarten nihilism to black metal sissies instead. Anyway,
enough of my semi-ranting.... Yeah, we have some eventual
gigs planned, hopefully with our brothers in arms, Regurgitate.
That'll be a blast. As Jocke pointed out, we figure we should
get a bit of routine before hitting the continental circuit.
And yes, Sex-God-Pathology will be out any time soon. On
Relapse. Honest. Really.
Scout's honour. Don't believe me? Well... eh... Oh fuck.
Next question.
One last question. Internet message boards - good, or bad?
JC:
Yay!
G: Despite
the prevailing elitistic attitude on a few UBB's I'd have
to say "good".
Any last words of wisdom and pathology? I think I need to
consume some bread. Carbs are good for you, you know. Feel
free to selfishly promote any upcoming releases and everything
else that's GENERAL SURGERY related!
JC:
Visit our online morgue at http://generalsurgery.nu,
buy our merchandise so we can get some cash together for
future recordings. Look out for upcoming releases, everything
will be advertised eventually on the website.
CAMELOT UNDER ATTACK!!!!!
G: Dear
Billy & Jill... Thank you for releasing such awesome
records such as TCME, Machetazo, Frightmare and others.
Please send me money. And porn. Best
wishes - Grant (age 14)
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Snail
mail:
Grant McWilliams
Poste Restante
S-100 26 Stockholm
Sweden
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